Two Biggest Limitation of Labels & Filters in TodoistMay 15, 2019
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Sometimes I need to refer to a series of related labels in a filter. Let’s imagine that certain tasks you do have to be done in a certain location.
- you have to be at your
houseto bring in your mail
- you can’t pickup your kids from your
- unless you have an app, you need to go to a
storeto buy grocieres
Location label samples
To address these concerns, you create a few labels:
Let’s imagine you want to see any tasks which do not have a location label specified. Here’s how that filter query would look:
No Location Specified
Check for tasks without location specified
!(@house | @office | @store)
So far, so good. Personally, I have 13 location labels. But let’s imagine you kept it to these three examples. Every time you wanted to check whether you’ve added a location label to your tasks, you would have to check all three of these labels.
This is probably fine, but now let’s assume you want to create a new filter.
Now - House - Work
- “Now” is the priority
- “House” is the location
- “Work” is the category
You likely have multiple priority and category labels as well.
!!numberflag system seems like a remnant from agile which is ill-suited to general purposes project management given that Todoist uses it to influence the order in which tasks are rendered. The reason this ordering matters is that it directly impacts how tasks are grouped. Imagine that you have a “level 1” priority task that isn’t due until the evening. The entire day it’s highlighted in red at the top. There’s unnecessary cognitive cost here. You end up reading over the same lines multiple times even though you have no intention of using them.
Now, your filter would look like this:
@now & @work & @house
Again, this isn’t so bad. But what happens when you want to see tasks which have been categorized but have not been prioritized? How about Categorized with a Location but not Prioritized?
Categorized - Not Prioritized
(@work | @chores | @hobbies) & !(@now | @next | @later)
Categorized & Location - Not Prioritized
(@work | @chores | @hobbies) & (@house | @office | @store) & !(@now | @next | @later)
Now imagine that you’re sitting there thinking, “you know
@home is too general. This is my home. I’ll change
Great. After you update those labels, you’ll notice that the labels update across every task. But wait, you’re not out of the woods yet ! You have to also update every.single.filter which relies on these labels.
You can create a superset label (which is what I do), like so:
- Superset label:
- Subset labels:
Now thanks to
@type, I can check a single label and determine whether those child-labels exist. This is incredibly useful in a number of places.
Unfortunate Side Effects
The unfortunate side effect of this temporary workaround is: I have to create “reconciliation” filters (
Supetset Label - No Subset Label or visa-versa).
Reconciliation Filter Examples
Actual Reconciliation Filter:
Loc - No Super
I’ve mentioned location a few times. Here’s one of my reconciliation filters
!@loc & (@loc-desk | @loc-anywhere | @loc-home | @loc-office | @loc-rockharbor | @loc-store | @loc-javatinis | @loc-target | @loc-progeny | @loc-kcs-health | @loc-car | @loc-hangar18)
This is quite tedious, but these reconciliation filters are preferred to the alternative: not having a superset label which I can easily check.
@loc label, I would have to check for the existence of all of these labels in multiple filters. Thanks to
@loc all of my filters can check for the existence - or lack - of location with
Surely there has to be a better way, right?
Absolutely! All of this tedium could be solved easily by allowing wildcards in filters.
With wildcards there would be no need for superset labels or reconciliation filters whatsoever. For the sake of consistency, though, let’s look at that
Loc - No Super reconciliation filter again with wildcards supported in Filters:
Loc - No Super
@loc & @loc-*
That’s it! Finito
- Support wildcards
- When renaming labels, update all instances of those labels in filters (just like all labels are already automatically updated across tasks)
Written by Alec HP